tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5380090049852721671.post2884245289996325367..comments2023-05-03T09:05:55.102-07:00Comments on Jacobinism: Reactionary RadicalsUnrepentant Jacobinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09256579083755037018noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5380090049852721671.post-28716193484963957322015-07-20T09:16:18.277-07:002015-07-20T09:16:18.277-07:00I don't know if Owen Jones has explicitly said...I don't know if Owen Jones has explicitly said so (I have not read everything he has written) but it is typical of people holding what is described here as his general orientation, to base their defense of illiberal Muslim sensibilities--but not of illiberal Christian sensibilities--on their perception that Muslims in the West, unlike Christians in the West, are a group suffering generally from social and political discrimination, and occasionally, something worse than discrimination. Let us leave for now the current claim emanating from certain Western Christian circles to the effect that believing Christians do indeed suffer from discrimination in the West (at the hands of Leftists, atheists, agnostics, and assorted Enlightenment types) and return to those who support the suffering of Muslims primarily. People holding this latter position cannot avoid noting that there are still those out there in society who suffer discrimination apart from Muslims, even if such people don't take Christian claims of suffering seriously. But people who end up primarily supporting Muslims from among this melange, do not explain why the discrimination suffered by Muslims in the West should be the eternal Trump: the only type of discrimination to override all other types of discrimination, including those visited by Muslims on others, in the event of a "clash of discriminations". Do these people consider the suffering of Muslims to be worse than that of others suffering discrimination? If so, how do they measure this? Indeed, in today's complex and very self-aware world--there are so many prejudices floating around--and so many concomitant grievances--and enough unfortunate effects of discrimination in a number of Identity arenas--that the Compassionate Soul, if they are being completely honest, must find it difficult--at least sometimes--to choose from among this turbulent swirl, who to support in the event of a clash of discriminations. Surely there must be circumstances when such a clash presents the Compassionate Soul with a conundrum. <br /><br />Ever since John Rawls published A Theory of Justice in 1971, the explicit focus of the Western Compassionate Soul has been on *Justice-Seeking* for the Unjustly-Treated. The original idea was that there was a potential remedy for all who were Unjustly-Treated. But now--in our very complex globalized era--the great enterprise of Justice-Seeking is no longer about simply promoting justice for those Unjustly-Treated, but in first determining who among those many Unjustly-Treated merit the biggest dollop of Justice, in the event of a clash among them. But how does one determine who suffers more and then be satisfied with their choice--even as the chosen Greater Sufferer causes suffering to yet others? And in determining who is the Greater Sufferer, how does the Compassionate Soul employ a method which is based on a principle(s) which can first be fairly applied to all contending suffering parties in order to make the decision about who should win Justice in the event of a clash--for surely, the Compassionate Soul wants to have a fair, universally applicable method for arriving at this decision.<br /><br />And there is the heart of the matter: what are the underlying premises and method for making this choice? Because I have not read what I consider to be a sufficient sampling of Jones' writings, I cannot make an educated guess as to what his underlying premises and methods of determination in this matter may be. Do you know?Aloeveranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5380090049852721671.post-32970077365330082542015-07-16T13:41:50.991-07:002015-07-16T13:41:50.991-07:00Post it through Jones' letterbox.Post it through Jones' letterbox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com